How did you get into SW?

[bobvan]

LOTG when I was like 6 Valerie of course

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It's an interesting story... I remember being fascinated with episodes of Jeannie, versions of Tinkerbell, Alice in Wonderland, or Wonder Woman

I had forgotten all about I dream of Jeannie! I did love the idea of her little bottle she was in.

"I wanted to live in a bottle too!"-Kylia

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Well My friends, I can tell you all had your own ways of figuring out what is an SW and how do you like it. Mine journey into SW was different from your experiences. I can say it way pretty unusual. It all has begun when I was 13. Me and mine parents moved to a the city (well, we didn't come from country, but we moved from suburbs into city itself). At that time I started a new school (middle school) It was all fun and everything, until I meet my new math teacher. She was a midget, or petite women around 120 cm tall (that's like 3ft9in). And she didn't look like most of the midget's are. Instead she had very normal and natural proportions like most adult women do. From the moment I meet her, I had these thought that someone decided to shrink her.
I remember her very well. She had big blue eyes, medium length brown hair and she was always wearing heels (which BTW didn't help much, but they were making a lot of noice around that small women). She was dressing very professional for a teacher - always in some jacket or business-like skirt. When she was siting at her teachers desk (in my country students remained in the same class, and the teachers are the one that are changing rooms to give lesson) I remember that her feet's were hovering above the ground. On another occasion, when she had to ask student a question or check his/her homework (in front of the class) she was sitting in her chair (me and my friends had a joke that she was taller sitting than standing). Or when everybody were smiling when she had to write down something for us on blackboard she used a small stepladder in order to use whole board. She also smoked which made her look grotesque. That's when I realize I like SW! Because of my midget teacher. At the beginning I did a lot of thinking and possible scenarios that someone really had shrunk her the other day. After a few years (when I was adult) I meet her at the bus stop, made a joke about her height (she laughed!) and offered her a cigarette. We talked about old times, for more than hour I missed a couple of buses and so did she, we exchanged our FB and goodbye...
Well that's how it all started because of my middle school math midget teacher after that I went into movies and discovered some yahoo groups about SW... and so it goes....

I wonder if this teacher ever fantasized about shrinking people, so she'd be bigger than them, a la Sally R.?

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For me, it was Gullivers Travels and King Kong. There is a lot of implied sex in Gullivers Travels from the giant little girl who undresses and redresses Lemuel, to him extinguishing the royal palace fire in Lilliput by peeing on it to Lemuel describing a giant woman's breast that he was pushed up close to. To be Kong or Anne Darrow however. My all=time favorite scene in cinema is where king strips most of the clothes off an unconscious Anne, There was a tie-in novelization released the same time as the movie. In it, Anne ends up a LOT more naked. It is really worth seeking out.

I had to read Gulliver's Travels for English class during my sophomore year at Tusculum College. (Though the Laputa part was abridged. I have no idea why.) I remember Gulliver peeing on the palace to put out the fire, and also the Lilliputians parading between Gulliver's legs while he's standing up, and being able to see, through holes in his trousers, how "well-endowed" Gulliver is.

The Italian comic artist Guido Crepax did a gender-swapped version of Gulliver's Travels called "I Viaggi Di Bianca". I bought the book, which came all the way from Italy, scanned all 16 pages of the Lilliput part and all 16 pages of the Brobdingnag part, and posted it on Minimizer's board. (Though it's not in English.) The Lilliput part includes Bianca peeing on the palace to put out the fire, just like in the book. (Of course, the Queen of Lilliput is horrified.) By the end of the Brobdingnag part, Bianca is being carried around in a bird cage. She's completely naked...and masturbating. (And earlier in this part, three servant girls who were "playing" with the tiny Bianca get caught, and get spanked as punishment.) I found a couple of pages from both parts online:'

http://www.grifoedizionidi.com/en/produ ... iLE93733Xn

I think that the only way to get an English version is an omnibus volume called Emmanuelle, Bianca and Venus in Furs, which is over 450 pages, and weighs three pounds! Though it looks like King Kong is also in this volume:

http://www.abebooks.com/Emmanuelle-Bian ... 2350558/bd

Guido Crepax's best-known character is the fashion photographer Valentina. This is the cover of one of his Valentina collections. I think that the title translates to "Valentina in a stew". I don't know if there's actual SW content in this storyline, or if the cover image is symbolic:

http://www.abebooks.com/Valentina-stufa ... 4231365/bd

The Baba Yaga storyline was filmed as the giallo Baba Yaga (aka Baba Yaga the Devil Witch). I bought the "director's cut" DVD from the UK and watched it. But there's no SW content in the movie, unless you count a dominatrix doll, somewhere between two and three feet tall, who can turn into a full-sized woman who carries out Baba Yaga's bidding (including shackling Valentina, then whipping her after Baba Yaga rips off her clothes).



Do you mean a novelization of the original King Kong? I bought a 1970's edition of that novelization in a local used book store in January 1994, but I never got around to reading it. (And now it's in a storage facility, where I'll probably never see it again.)

http://www.abebooks.com/first-edition/K ... 3495742/bd

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I share this again for NO other reasons other than I find it interesting, that there might be people out there struggling with this and these things should be out in the light of day. I was abducted and abused at a very young age which set in train an overwhelming obsession with Alice in Wonderland which spread to other size related material.

At 3 years old the shrinking and shrunken state in Hanna-Barbera Alice shattered my universe into a myriad of beautiful tiny fragments. Next was my mother's beautiful illustrated edition of the original (which no longer seems to exist) with which I taught myself to read by the age of 4. Alice was everything to me until I was 8. She was my secret girlfriend that I hid in my pocket, or maybe just walked hand in hand with through the giant jungle of our lawn. I even wanted to be her. Even at 3 I can remember stirrings of sexuality stimulated by a woman or a girl shrinking or being shrunken

I started watching the Batwoman TV series during the first season. Batwoman is Kate Kane, cousin of Bruce Wayne. (Though she was replaced for the second and third seasons.) Kate has a twin sister named Beth. When Beth was a little girl, she was abducted by an evil man and held prisoner in his house, possibly for years. I don't know if she was abused, sexually or otherwise, because I didn't watch from the beginning. Her one comfort was the book Alice in Wonderland. At some point after she was free, she started calling herself Alice, she bleached her brunette hair blonde, she started dressing differently (including wearing fingerless gloves), and she carried that Alice in Wonderland book with her, maybe at all times. And she became a criminal, including killing people. She had a henchman that she called "Mouse". (Though in the Season One finale, she fatally poisoned Mouse. "Goodbye, my dear, sweet Mouse, my brother, my everything. I'll see you in Wonderland." And she burned that Alice in Wonderland book.) Some of the episodes had titles like "Down the Rabbit Hole" and "Curiouser and Curiouser".



Bobby

[DocRick]

Although the franchise did give us Keri Russell as a SW briefly. I did love the one scene when she and Nick are in the infant's pocket, and she says "is he growing, or are we shrinking?"

And her shrinking with Nick was a nice touch at the end.

I always thought it would have been better for the kid to rescue her when she was hanging out of the car, either grabbing her or catching her as she fell. We could have gotten a nice handheld, but it would interfere with the plot of the movie. Nick had to save her so she would fall in love with him.

[DocRick]

I've always had a fascination with size change as far back as I can remember. Giant insect movies like THEM and the movie with the giant tarantula. King Kong '33, I Dream of Jeannie, the Gulliver cartoon, the Super Friends episode where Wonder Woman gets shrunk and of course, LOTG, began to shift my interest to SW. Then King Kong '77 cemented it in my psyche.

I fell upon some Photoshop pages on Fb and started doing SW images when women submitted photographs to be edited. Usually, I try to keep it related to what they asked for, but with an SW twist. Interestingly, many of them like the images and I can recall only two that had a negative reaction. Currently, I'm in a private chat with a European girl (after stalking her Fb page, I'm 99% sure she's legit ) who was never into SW, but after editing a picture of her as an SW on the Fb page, she PM'd me with more pictures of her to shrink her in more collages. The conversations have gotten sexual, though the 1% doubt prohibits me from getting really graphic in my collages and she has never asked for one, requesting I don't change the clothes she has on in the photographs she sends. Her imagination has turned on, and she has described things she would want me to do to her and what she would do with me. I think she's really getting into it even though I doubt she had ever even thought about it before.

So I still think it's more mainstream than we think, most like many of us, are too embarrassed to let it out.

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I remember the old animated Gulliver's Travels used to captivate me, particularly when Gulliver was interacting with the princess and being so tender and gentle.

This one?





http://www.thunderbeanshop.com/product/ ... s-travels/

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From there I found my way to the old, old, very old Shrinking Women board (don't know if anyone here remembers it). The rest is history.

The old Adultforums SW message board? I discovered it in 2003, after first discovering Minimizer's website and the "fan-produced" story "The House of the Tiny Men" (which has some SW content at the end) while doing a Google search to find out more information about a children's book that I bought online, The Mysterious Shrinking House (aka Mindy's Mysterious Miniature). By then it was being run by Lorekeep. At some point after that (2004?), it started being plagued by an annoying pop-up ad for some kind of electric sex toy. So Lorekeep decided to shut it down, against the wishes of the people who posted there. Luckily, prior to that, Minimizer discovered that his website could support a message board, so he set one up, sometime in September 2004. It was originally called The SW Drawer. ("Opening the drawer, you discover a tiny woman waving at you.")

There were other SW message boards back then. There was the Little Ladies Forum, which was run by someone named Mr. Carl. It was mainly for fans of "mini"-sized SW. It was where lbh originally posted his epic story "Nooks and Crannies". There was the SW Matrix, which was sometimes referred to as the "women's board" because that was mainly where azure_eyes, Crys, Samara and Sasha/Wannashrink posted. And there was a SW message board that I can't remember the name of where Cashia posted. She wrote a story that I can't remember the title of with a SW named Daphne. And the mad scientist who shrunk her had an assistant named Fred, who fell in love with Daphne and tried to help her. (Jinkies!)

[DocRick]

I remember the old animated Gulliver's Travels used to captivate me, particularly when Gulliver was interacting with the princess and being so tender and gentle.

This one?

This is the show I remember from the 1960's. If I remember correctly, it was part of a variety kids show called "The Banana Splits."

[sallyfourth]

In the beginning, there was Eris. And the goddess moved upon the waters and saw that there were no tiny women and she was sad. From the clay of a river bank, she formed a small figure, with a lopsided smile. Holding the figure in her hands she brought it to her lips and whispered "I need a mouth piece."

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This is the show I remember from the 1960's. If I remember correctly, it was part of a variety kids show called "The Banana Splits."

I mentioned this in one of my posts in the "What got you interested in SW?" thread. It was called The Banana Splits and Friends Show. It combined segments from The Banana Splits Adventure Hour (including the shrinking-themed educational segment "Micro Ventures") with other Hanna-Barbera shows, including this one. (I remember it being called The New Adventures of Gulliver. There also was The New Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, which combined live action and animation.) I remember that the short, heavy-set Lilliputian was named Glum. He was always saying things like "It'll never work!" and "We're doomed!". Back then I didn't know that his voice was based on Ned Sparks, a "sourpuss" character actor who was often referenced in old cartoons. If you watched "Tennessee Tuxedo and His Tales", Baldy the eagle also had a "Ned Sparks" voice.



I think that the Gulliver's Travels that azureeyes is talking about is an animated feature from 1939 that was made to cash in on the success of Disney's Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. It was forced on the Fleischer studio by Paramount, and it was rushed through production, so it didn't turn out as well as it might have. The studio's second (and final) animated feature, Mr. Bug Goes To Town (aka Hoppity Goes To Town), turned out better.

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King Kong was what did it for me. From Kong removing Ann’s clothes to when Kong grabs the random woman out of her bed and just drops her to her doom.

http://www.abebooks.com/Emmanuelle-Bian ... 2350558/bd

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I apologize that I am still catching up on various topics for conversation so late, but I haven't been here that long...

"How did I get into SW..?"

I think it started when I was quite young: I remember vividly that when I would play with my dolls, I would wonder what it would be like to be as small as they were. Partly it was because I wanted to wear Barbie's wardrobe. But I also used to wonder how it would be to live in a dollhouse and have someone play with me. Anyway, the seed had been planted: I wanted to be a doll-sized girl.

You probably wouldn't really want to wear Barbie clothes. Both of my sisters had Barbies (one more than the other), and by then the clothes were sewn with monofilament (fishing line) instead of thread. (Though when Barbie was introduced in 1959, the clothes were made by hand, and had features like working zippers. So those might be more comfortable.) In Tabitha King's Small World, when Leyna Shaw is dressed in doll clothes (though maybe not Barbie clothes) instead of the clothes that she was wearing when she was shrunk, she complains about them being scratchy and uncomfortable. (Though she doesn't know that she's been shrunk, and is now wearing doll clothes.)

As I got older,I became interested in any movies or TV shows (mostly TV re-runs or old films) that featured a tiny girl, either because she had been shrunk down or because she was found by a Giant or Giantess of some kind. In addition, all the little women needed to be in the "doll-sized" range of 5"-12" (which is why I think I was never that interested in the "Honey, I Shrunk..." movies) Whenever I was able to see my fantasy realized visually, I wanted to see even more, and these feelings (some more sexual as I matured) never really went away even when I became an adult.

I think over the years, especially with the advent of the internet, I was able to see (or find images from) most all of the movies and TV that featured any SW. Of course, some were of much better quality than others.

Then there were a few that made a big impression on me that has stayed with me even to the present:

"The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad"
"Attack of the Puppet People" (B&W)

I think what made these SW entries more interesting to me was that each of them had a female protagonist whom I always identified with and sympathized with in her smallness. So as I watched, I WAS Princess Parisa or Sally Reynolds or Valerie Scott or Nurse Ginger. I think also in these stories, the shrinking (or size difference) was an important part of the drama, the woman was always an unwilling doll, and the effects were good enough to be able to suspend disbelief.

The 7th Voyage of Sinbad was re-released to theaters sometime in the 1970's. I saw a TV commercial for it. The commercial showed the shrunken princess fairly close to the beginning, in a clip from this scene:



I really wanted to see that movie. But at that age, I didn't pick what movies I saw in theaters. They were picked for me. (So I also didn't get to see re-releases of A Boy Named Charlie Brown and Snoopy Come Home, which I also saw TV commercials for. Though according to my baby book, the original release of Snoopy Come Home was the first movie that I saw in a theater. I have no memory of it.) I didn't get to see The 7th Voyage of Sinbad until the 21st century, after Turner Classic Movies was added to the cable TV lineup in the fall of 1997.

In 1978, my family got cable TV, mainly for better reception of Tampa's ABC station. Their transmitter was in another county, so we got a snowy picture, even with a rooftop antenna. Back then, getting cable TV added only three channels (four if you payed extra for HBO, which my family didn't), only one of them outside of Florida. One of them was WCIX from Miami. One day I saw a commercial for Attack of the Puppet People being shown on WCIX. Unfortunately, there were no clips, just B & W stock footage of a foggy moor, with a narrator describing the plot. I definitely remember the narrator saying "They become short-tempered.". But it was on past my bedtime, so I didn't get to watch it. I finally got to see Attack of the Puppet People in 1992 or 1993, on WTBS, chopped up with commercials. (And in recent years I watched it on Svengoolie on MeTV, also chopped up with commercials.)

Also, though not of interest to you, I read about Dr. Cyclops and The Devil Doll (1936) in library books in the 1980's, but I didn't get to see them until the 1990's. I watched Dr. Cyclops on American Movie Classics, back when they showed classic movies without commercials, in 1992 or 1993. (It actually was a "double feature" with The Incredible Shrinking Man, which I had already watched on WGN, chopped up with commercials, in 1979 and 1980.) After Ted Turner got his hands on The Devil Doll (1936), he colorized it. So I didn't get to watch it until after Turner Classic Movies was added to the cable TV lineup, and I could watch a proper B & W version.

I really didn't see the Ted Danson version of "Gulliver". I would have been far more interested in seeing a woman in the leading role, as Milo Manara did with his graphic story "Gullivera". That version also stays pretty true to the original, including the fire scene. I think that when the 1960 version was made, film codes wouldn't allow the inclusion of that scene.

The Italian comic artist Guido Crepax also did a gender-swapped version of Gullver's Travels, "I "Viaggi Di Bianca". I bought the book, scanned all 16 pages of the Lilliput part and all 16 pages of the Brobdingnag part, and posted it on Minimizer's board. (Though it's not in English.) The Lilliput part includes Bianca peeing on the palace to put out the fire, just like in the book. (Of course, the queen of Lilliput is horrified.) By the end of the Brobdingnag part, Bianca is being carried around in a bird cage. She's completely naked...and masturbating. (And earlier in this part, three servant girls who were "playing" with the tiny Bianca get caught, and get spanked as punishment.) I found a couple of pages from both parts online:

http://www.grifoedizionidi.com/en/produ ... sIgNXbv9IB

I think that the only way to get an English version is an omnibus version called Emmanuelle, Bianca and Venus in Furs that's over 450 pages, and weighs three pounds! (Though King Kong also pus in an appearance in this volume.)

http://www.abebooks.com/Emmanuelle-Bian ... 2350558/bd

Guido Crepax's best-known creation is the fashion photographer Valentina. Here's one of his Valentina collections. I think that the title translates to "Valentina in a stew". I don't know if there's actual SW content in this storyline, or if the cover image is symbolic:

http://www.abebooks.com/Valentina-stufa ... 4231365/bd

The "Baba Yaga" storyline was filmed as the giallo Baba Yaga (aka Baba Yaga the Devil Witch). I bought the "director's cut" DVD from the UK and watched it. There's no SW content, unless you count a dominatrix doll, somewhere between two and three feet tall, who can turn into a full-sized woman who carries out Baba Yaga's bidding (including shackling Valentina, then whipping her after Baba Yaga rips off her clothes).

As far as which shrunken girl was sexier...well, to each her own! I identified with Ginger because she was a blonde like me. (So like, deep, right?);0

A recent discovery:

http://pappysgoldenage.blogspot.com/201 ... place.html

I can recall, when I was quite young, reading a story about shrinking in school and having a strong reaction to it. This continued with every iteration of it that I saw or read without change for the rest of my life. Still is there today.

Was the book that you read in school The Would-Be Witch, Among the Dolls, or Danny Dunn and the Smallifying Machine? Those were all books that I read when I was in elementary school, most of them checked out of the library. I also remember one of the Green Knowe books having shrinking in one chapter. And there are a couple of books that I read but can't remember the titles of. One had a talking cat in it. Two evil witches used "Miniscule Magic" to shrink the cat's girlfriend so small that she could fit in a matchbox. The reversal spell made the two witches lose all of their powers, and all memories of them being witches. They were now just two sweet little old ladies. In the other book, a child prince shrunk because he stood too close to a "croup kettle". He eventually found a tiny princess the same size as him, and they got married. (The villainess showed up at the wedding and said "May all of their problems be small ones.".) In this same book, someone got turned into a mechanical fortune-telling machine. And there was a cockatrice. That's all that I can remember about that book.

I also loved "I Dream of Jeannie" for the tiny women scenes. I always though Barbara Eden was SO sexy, and the sight of her scampering over the desk and hiding in giant props always tickled my fancy. ;}

(I also wanted to try on that cute little harem-girl outfit!)

(That's Mark Hamill, pre-Star Wars, voicing Jeannie's "master" Cory.)

Staying Small
Kara

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@Kara Dollgirl
I don't think I've ever met anyone who has made their fantasies disappear. I do a lot of in-person size community organizing, and I've met macrophiles and microphiles in their 70's and 80's even. It does not go away!! I've certainly met people who have turned to religion and left their size kink by suppression...but I don't think that works. Look at gay people as an example, I think it's pretty clear you can't get rid of your sexual interests. You can deny them, sure, but I think they will always be there in the back of your head.

Remember dear, departed Twinchy? Her brother found out about her secret online life, and threatened to "out" her to her religious family if she didn't quit the online size fetish community cold turkey. On top of that, she was mainly a fan of F/f SW material, and was becoming attracted to women, which went against her religious upbringing. She had already had such a rough life. When she was in high school,a piece of scenery for a school play fell on her, which put her in a wheelchair. When she complained about it to the school, she was expelled! She had to finish her high school education at a private school.

[Godforgives,Idon't]

How it all started is a common icebreaker at most of our size meetups, and almost across the board, most of us have had this interest since childhood. There are some who find the interest as they go through puberty, but they usually already had a foundation of dominant or submissive tendencies as children.

I was beaten into submission and threatened into submission at an early age, by my dad, and by my grandfather on my dad's side, who pretty much took my dad's place after my parents separated, then divorced, when I was eleven. And after the separation/divorce, I still had to spend just about every Sunday with my dad, which I assume was a condition of him paying child support. He still threatened me with The Belt, and the verbal abuse continued. (At least both of them are burning in Hell (for adultery) now.) And that's not all. I was threatened (and in general treated horribly) by both of my sisters. (And both of my sisters were diagnosed with cancer in their forties. Serves them right.) I was threatened by classmates, in elementary school, in junior high school, in high school, and while I was at Tusculum College. I was threatened by teachers, especially EH (emotionally handicapped) teachers. I was threatened by the Dean of Students of Tusculum College. The manager of the Bonanza restaurant in Greeneville, Tennessee threatened to throw me out. One of my former next door neighbors at Brewer's Bridgeway (HUD apartments for mentally ill people) threatened to report me to the HRS. After Brewer's Bridgeway was sold to Nazis Dictators Communists (NDC Asset Management) in October 2020, the new woman in charge threatened to evict me the same day that she met me. (And she did evict me a little over a year later.) I've been threatened by people online, on message boards, and by people I bought stuff from online. When I wanted to return some DVD sets that I won on eBay, the eBay seller threatened to have me arrested if I returned them. And I still get threatened by my mom and by my sister, the one who hasn't died of cancer...yet.

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It started for me when I saw the original King Kong (1933), especially the recovered footage where Kong peels Fay Wray's clothes off.

http://www.abebooks.com/Emmanuelle-Bian ... 2350558/bd

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I thought I replied to this thread before. I guess not.

I was interested in all things shrinking when I was young. When I got older, it turned into a fetish for me. I started watching Land of the Giants and I Dream of Jeannie just for the tiny women scenes.

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Well, with me it started very early indeed, I could say when I was 12 and saw the older King Kong and later one with Lange, since than I always craved for more and more and more

http://www.abebooks.com/Emmanuelle-Bian ... 2350558/bd

[Hug0]

Alice in Wonderland, I Dream of Jeannie LOTG, Dr Shrinker, various B movies was my childhood. I've been fascinated with SW for most of my life.

[Hand-Holder]

Alice in Wonderland, I Dream of Jeannie LOTG, Dr Shrinker, various B movies was my childhood. I've been fascinated with SW for most of my life.

Don´t lie to US, we all saw you in this movie when you were younger, lol -

[Hug0]

Alice in Wonderland, I Dream of Jeannie LOTG, Dr Shrinker, various B movies was my childhood. I've been fascinated with SW for most of my life.

Don´t lie to US, we all saw you in this movie when you were younger, lol -

I watched that during my college years, good times indeed! I might have to remake a scene of my own with Nurse Ginger.