(Posted this in the wrong thread.)
Probably an abandoned project, but there is some more art there.. I wonder if enough exists to make it via AI animation?
I'm loathe to contact the artist though, as some people go ballistic at the subject.
There is also evidence of a different story from the animatic. The spider calls her "Your Highness" above.
Hey I'm sure this thread is dead at this point but I just want to say that I've been aware of this board for awhile.
I'm grateful for the interest in this project but please don't steal my stuff or use my work with AI, I don't appreciate it and it really doesn't show respect or support for the work I do.
Besides that, I mostly abandoned the project for two reasons: 1) I wasn't sure where to take the story at the time, sort of wrote myself into a corner and by the time I realized what I wanted to do with the concept (which got much bigger than anticipated) I got super busy. And 2) I was worried about folks in the fetish community flocking to my page or having my work misconstrued by anyone looking to hire me in the future, especially since I work in media across all ages. SO yes I did censor my animatics that are on my site for that reason. Those animatics also take a long time to do and I even though I would love to return to her story at a later date, I have other personal projects that take priority right now so I'm not sure when I will get around to it.
Also I am aware of the parallels of 20min Walk from Nishi-Ogikubo Station. I'm a big fan of that short, especially for its movement, cinematography and depiction of the protagonist in that scenario. I was so impressed by the confidence in their poses that I did reference it for one of my illustrations to essentially learn from it and pay homage.
As someone who's been chronically online for a long time I'm aware of these spaces and I'm aware of those here who follow me elsewhere. To be completely honest SW is not typically my cup of tea, but when it's done well I think it can be really great visually. A lot of this space shares a lot of other fetish content that I'm not personally crazy about so I'm not really interested in exploring that with this project. I have more interest in telling good stories, writing compelling characters, or experimenting with cinematography, and occasionally if the subject involves something that makes sense to portray nudity, like Nishi-Ogikubo, I'm not opposed to it.
Please don't harass me into making more, it only makes me want to do it less. I've had several people DM me or message me over and over again about this on other sites and it's a huge deterrent to making anything related to SW. Also money isn't really a motivator for me right now, so please don't contact me about commissions. Maybe I will return to it one day but for now just hold tight. Until then feel free to make fanwork, but please don't use my art for AI, I'm vehemently against it.
I'm not planning on hanging around here to chat. I just wanted to set the record straight and clarify where I stand with this.
I didn't see much similarity to "20min Walk" except that it was the same genre. To me, Molly seemed more real as a character than the woman in 20 min Walk, who has a strange lack of reaction to her predicament.
A lot of us are used to being treated with distain from people who call themselves more "legitimate". This long predates AI, so when people start whining about that too, it can seem disingenuous. AI can get stuff done that will never happen in any other way. Talk about what is art and who is an artist is missing the point. A bag of flower is not art, but it is more necessary to live than art is.
So I won't do any more Small Molly art. That's okay, I've got other ideas.
"AI can get stuff done that will never happen in any other way"
Yes. But the problem is that AI is just gross to look at, at some fundamental level.
It's like putting aspartame in your drink instead of natural sugar, only much worse... and no matter how much you work on the aspartame formula, it's just never gonna be sugar.
It's hard to pinpoint exactly why AI is gross to look at, but I posit the fundamental problem is that this AI they have is not really AI to begin with, it doesn't understand reality at all, and all it's doing in terms of art is an equivalent of jangling keys in front of you, in an unnatural and distorted way
See also Han van Meegeren, whose works were widely praised when people thought Vermeer had painted them. (They didn't even look that much like Vermeer.)
it doesn't matter what ppl's opinions/reactions are when shown AI, what you're doing at a fundamental level doesn't change, which is that you're making them consume something unnatural, a contaminant, even if they are confused by it
again with the aspartame analogy, you can tweak it to taste more like sugar but it's still the same "never-meant-to-exist-in-nature" chemical regardless of what ppl think while eating it
I posit AI art is also a contaminant, that's why it's gross to look at even if you're tricked. There's a bad aftertaste.
And just like eating aspartame, who knows what this crap is going to do to your brain in the long run.
That's my feelings tho, if you can consume AI art without being grossed out that's okay I guess
Also I want to add a note that, don't get me wrong, the idea of having a SW art content generator (AI) is the stuff of dreams
But the current thing ain't it. And I don't have any hopes for this thing they've termed "AI" to actually be it. Somehow I have the feeling this thing isn't what's advertised and just isn't going anywhere
I suppose I should mention that I hate diet pop, and prefer Club Soda, or even just water. But I also recognize that I am in the minority on this issue and most people willingly buy diet pop and have no problem with it. There was a similar crase a few years ago with dijon mustard. People somehow decided that all yellow mustard was inferior and dijon should be used everywhere. I liked it, but it was just a different condiment, sometimes better, sometimes worse. That craze died down after a while, but there is plenty of dijon in use where it works. The new does not need to be a threat to the common.
You may be missing the point of the Monet image above. All those people were shown a REAL Monet painting, and because they THOUGHT it was AI, they responded with all the usual AI criticisms - sometimes quite violently. This makes all their observations about any art, real or otherwise, meaningless. [They see what they have been told to see.
I should not have to restrain myself to accommodate people who aren't really looking at my work anyway. Pixar has been using AI since the first Toy Story movie. I'm sure you will explain to me how that is different somehow, but you aren't applying that distinction to any new AI.
Also I want to add a note that, don't get me wrong, the idea of having a SW art content generator (AI) is the stuff of dreams
But the current thing ain't it. And I don't have any hopes for this thing they've termed "AI" to actually be it. Somehow I have the feeling this thing isn't what's advertised and just isn't going anywhere
For me, and probably lots of other people with this fantasy, at some point we have to face the grim reality that we are never actually going to really shrink ourselves or anyone in real life. There's no such thing as magic or shrinking formulas, and teleportation accidents and the like would just kill you if you got compressed by them.
So that means shrinking has to take place in the realm of the imagination. Sitting around waiting for Hollywood or whoever to make a perfect shrinking TV show or movie is a fool's errand, as we either get fed garbage and told to like it (Incredible Shrinking Woman for example), watch in dismay as the GTS people get all the cool stuff (Attack of the 50 Foot Cheerleader et. al.), or get tiny snippets of "what could've been" (e.g. Miniature Wife not having a single decent handheld scene in the whole damn show).
To that end, AI as it currently exists happens to be the closest thing to actually shrinking someone that you can get. You sit at a computer, show it a picture of somebody (or have it make one) and then say "that sexy babe is now four inches tall and sprawled out in a giant hand" and viola, you are now Dr. Shrinker! Sure AI may not be perfect and it rubs some people the wrong way, but it's the closest thing to a shrink ray we have right now so I say sit back and enjoy it! It's only gonna get better.
Also I want to add a note that, don't get me wrong, the idea of having a SW art content generator (AI) is the stuff of dreams
But the current thing ain't it. And I don't have any hopes for this thing they've termed "AI" to actually be it. Somehow I have the feeling this thing isn't what's advertised and just isn't going anywhere
For me, and probably lots of other people with this fantasy, at some point we have to face the grim reality that we are never actually going to really shrink ourselves or anyone in real life. There's no such thing as magic or shrinking formulas, and teleportation accidents and the like would just kill you if you got compressed by them.
So that means shrinking has to take place in the realm of the imagination. Sitting around waiting for Hollywood or whoever to make a perfect shrinking TV show or movie is a fool's errand, as we either get fed garbage and told to like it (Incredible Shrinking Woman for example), watch in dismay as the GTS people get all the cool stuff (Attack of the 50 Foot Cheerleader et. al.), or get tiny snippets of "what could've been" (e.g. Miniature Wife not having a single decent handheld scene in the whole damn show).
To that end, AI as it currently exists happens to be the closest thing to actually shrinking someone that you can get. You sit at a computer, show it a picture of somebody (or have it make one) and then say "that sexy babe is now four inches tall and sprawled out in a giant hand" and viola, you are now Dr. Shrinker! Sure AI may not be perfect and it rubs some people the wrong way, but it's the closest thing to a shrink ray we have right now so I say sit back and enjoy it! It's only gonna get better.
I wouldn't say that. The scene where Les grabs her in episode 7 and then when Vivian captures her in episode 10, I thought were both decent handheld scenes.
Also I want to add a note that, don't get me wrong, the idea of having a SW art content generator (AI) is the stuff of dreams
But the current thing ain't it. And I don't have any hopes for this thing they've termed "AI" to actually be it. Somehow I have the feeling this thing isn't what's advertised and just isn't going anywhere
For me, and probably lots of other people with this fantasy, at some point we have to face the grim reality that we are never actually going to really shrink ourselves or anyone in real life. There's no such thing as magic or shrinking formulas, and teleportation accidents and the like would just kill you if you got compressed by them.
So that means shrinking has to take place in the realm of the imagination. Sitting around waiting for Hollywood or whoever to make a perfect shrinking TV show or movie is a fool's errand, as we either get fed garbage and told to like it (Incredible Shrinking Woman for example), watch in dismay as the GTS people get all the cool stuff (Attack of the 50 Foot Cheerleader et. al.), or get tiny snippets of "what could've been" (e.g. Miniature Wife not having a single decent handheld scene in the whole damn show).
To that end, AI as it currently exists happens to be the closest thing to actually shrinking someone that you can get. You sit at a computer, show it a picture of somebody (or have it make one) and then say "that sexy babe is now four inches tall and sprawled out in a giant hand" and viola, you are now Dr. Shrinker! Sure AI may not be perfect and it rubs some people the wrong way, but it's the closest thing to a shrink ray we have right now so I say sit back and enjoy it! It's only gonna get better.
Maybe in the future, but as of this moment, some of your photoshop collages are far superior to anything AI can produce. AI still has that artificial look, while some of your work makes my brain struggle to continue to believe miniaturization of human beings isn't possible.
Its ridiculous that instead of honoring the artist's request to not make ai derivatives of his art and trying to contextualize his work as fetish fodder instead you guys are debating the merits of ai and coming up with sniffly justifications for why its ok use these programs for anything but personal curiosity or satisfaction. I have a MFA in sequential art and its insulting I now have to compete for space with people who put less effort into producing content then I would ordering fast food off a mobile app.
Also I want to add a note that, don't get me wrong, the idea of having a SW art content generator (AI) is the stuff of dreams
But the current thing ain't it. And I don't have any hopes for this thing they've termed "AI" to actually be it. Somehow I have the feeling this thing isn't what's advertised and just isn't going anywhere
For me, and probably lots of other people with this fantasy, at some point we have to face the grim reality that we are never actually going to really shrink ourselves or anyone in real life. There's no such thing as magic or shrinking formulas, and teleportation accidents and the like would just kill you if you got compressed by them.
So that means shrinking has to take place in the realm of the imagination. Sitting around waiting for Hollywood or whoever to make a perfect shrinking TV show or movie is a fool's errand, as we either get fed garbage and told to like it (Incredible Shrinking Woman for example), watch in dismay as the GTS people get all the cool stuff (Attack of the 50 Foot Cheerleader et. al.), or get tiny snippets of "what could've been" (e.g. Miniature Wife not having a single decent handheld scene in the whole damn show).
To that end, AI as it currently exists happens to be the closest thing to actually shrinking someone that you can get. You sit at a computer, show it a picture of somebody (or have it make one) and then say "that sexy babe is now four inches tall and sprawled out in a giant hand" and viola, you are now Dr. Shrinker! Sure AI may not be perfect and it rubs some people the wrong way, but it's the closest thing to a shrink ray we have right now so I say sit back and enjoy it! It's only gonna get better.
I wouldn't say that. The scene where Les grabs her in episode 7 and then when Vivian captures her in episode 10, I thought were both decent handheld scenes.
The handheld scene with Vivienne is great. Instead of being terrified, Lindy says "Fuck you.". ("Nice to meet you too, Mrs. Littlejohn.") Then Lindy escapes by biting Vivienne's hand. While Les is dealing with Vivienne,
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Lindy zaps Vivienne with a (normal-sized) taser. ("Down goes giant toxic tart.")
I love that Lindy is such a badass. (And I've only seen clips so far.) I just wish that she wouldn't say the f-word so much.
