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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by Dr.Minimizer » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:20 am

I've lost count of how many of these I've tried to get to make SW imagery.

Katalist probably makes the best art but it refuses to do scale no matter what I do.

Midjourney is really good with consistent characters but all attempts at scale make doll-like figures. Here are a couple of the better ones.


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All of the comic creator programs I've tried, like ComicsMaker.ai, Komiko, Shortbread, Dashtoon, etc. all produce reasonably consistent characters but basically ignore any request to alter your character's scale. It's very frustrating.

ChatGPT/Dall-E 3 tell you they can't render scale at all, but if you use one of the alternative GPTs you can sometimes work your way around it. I tried making a scene with a fitness girl getting shrunk by a reducing machine and after a lot of work I came up with this:

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After that I had even better luck when I started comparing the ladies to objects the AI knows are small, so with that I was able to get it to show me images of a grid girl posing next to a Hot Wheels car:

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I'm going to see if I can make a short comic out of that but it's not going to be in any way straightforward. Making the AI do what you want is like pulling teeth.

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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by AlecFair » Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:06 pm

Dr.Minimizer wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:20 am
I'm going to see if I can make a short comic out of that but it's not going to be in any way straightforward. Making the AI do what you want is like pulling teeth.
I agree with this as someone who has messed around with AI stuff like Novel AI's image gen and with Seaart AI, getting what you want when it comes to scale is like pulling teeth a lot of the time. AI gens is pretty much playing the slot machine and hoping you get your results.
This is why I tell people that AI is not as advanced as most freak out about. Its why I will say "The moment I can accurately gen a shrunken woman at the accurate size of an inch tall standing near a lego house will be the moment where we can say AI has gotten more advanced." based on what we have right now with the tech. Yeah you can make giant characters easily but that is just basic as hell sizes where tiny characters are more interesting.

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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by Dr.Minimizer » Mon Sep 30, 2024 3:19 pm

This is what I'm talking about right here (see below image). I give the AI concise, specific instructions and it even repeats them back to me and then does exactly the opposite of what it says it's doing (see what I mean in the text underneath the picture). For anyone else reading this, if you want to work with AI to make images, be prepared to tear your hair out! Even more frustrating, there is a daily usage limit and every time the AI just completely botches your instructions, it still counts against that limit. *sigh*

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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by bobvan2 » Mon Sep 30, 2024 3:43 pm

If I want to use AI with SW I will just assemble collages with my render program like I did in my recent collages thread. For LOTG will just keep rendering. I made some none SW related stuff in my "AI shit" gallery on DA, cause in spite of not getting the result, I still like the way some images came out. Even cartoonish stuff which us really not my thing but may appeal to a different audience. I may delve into AI painting in concert with Daz Studio. In any case to get results in less then a week of playing with it is more then I expected. Finally PS is your friend!

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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by bobvan2 » Mon Sep 30, 2024 3:48 pm

JOE66 wrote:
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I prefer your 3D daz work much more.

Yeah so does everybody else apparently by the overload of comments I got in my recent LOTG postings :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just being cheeky :D

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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by Hand-Holder » Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:15 pm

bobvan2 wrote:
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JOE66 wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2024 2:18 pm
I prefer your 3D daz work much more.

Yeah so does everybody else apparently by the overload of comments I got in my recent LOTG postings :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just being cheeky :D
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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by bobvan2 » Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:42 pm

Im more or less using it for SW ish stuff and other none SW stuff case and point.


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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by Dr.Minimizer » Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:46 pm

Sadly my computer and pocketbook can't handle Daz Studio. Maybe I should start a Patreon or something so I can afford it. Those images are amazing.

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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by bobvan2 » Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:49 pm

Dr.Minimizer wrote:
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Sadly my computer and pocketbook can't handle Daz Studio. Maybe I should start a Patreon or something so I can afford it. Those images are amazing.
To clarify. The above & stuff in this thread is made with AI which is free to use here https://dezgo.com/text2image/sdxl (which is why I am limited to what I can create) & Free D/A which is limited to 10 promps per week if one does not have CORE. DS stuff is here: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4833 kinda like you do with stories / episodes which is killer stuff BTW. I do have a killer system with a 4090 video card I had built last year. More useful for DS & fast render times. I like the way AI links in the DOF effect in pictures.
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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by bobvan2 » Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:24 pm

Another perfect example; these are the farthest interest of my SW fantasies. Having said that cant help still liking the way it came out.
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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by bobvan2 » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:19 pm

Yaaay success with size related promps!


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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by Dr.Minimizer » Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:55 pm

I see what you mean, that dezgo thing will just not render anything related to scale differences. Too bad, it makes some amazing images.

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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by bobvan2 » Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:26 pm

Dr.Minimizer wrote:
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I see what you mean, that dezgo thing will just not render anything related to scale differences. Too bad, it makes some amazing images.
Yeah the woman on the mouse was the odd fluke but for the most part no. Its alright I can put different stuff like hot models super heroines ect. I have plenty of size stuff anyhow and can use it to make layers and collage them like I am doing in my collages thread and render my stories. I spite of this I do really like what I can do for just a week.

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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by bobvan2 » Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:36 pm

Why does it say report closed by Alana in my PM's?

Anyhoo had some more "moderate success" with scaling. Some sci from from DA AI

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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by Dr.Minimizer » Wed Oct 02, 2024 4:40 am

I was able to coax Katalist into making a character doll sized, but it took hours of experimentation to figure it out. I actually put in a ticket to the moderators to see if they could give me some more insight, using the angle that I wanted to make a faerie sized character. In the meantime, while waiting for an answer, I managed to make a half-sized character using the "miniature" keyword:

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Then when I used the word "miniature" five times in the prompt it gave me this (note that if you keep adding that word after about 5 tries the image just starts looking more and more like a plastic doll, without actually getting any smaller):
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This last one is sooooo sexy, too...pretty much my ideal woman right there. The hair, eyes, collar, figure, gloves, boots, everything...sigh...

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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by bobvan2 » Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:02 pm

Definitely your style

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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by Elana » Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:02 pm

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Why does it say report closed by Alana in my PM's?
Because "some" people like to confuse the report and reply button.

And such obvious non reports just get closed by me and ignored otherwise.
(Well and promptly forgotten)

And if you get confused by such mails, that just means you weren't confused often enough :P
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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by bobvan2 » Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:56 pm

Elana wrote:
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Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:36 pm
Why does it say report closed by Alana in my PM's?
Because "some" people like to confuse the report and reply button.

And such obvious non reports just get closed by me and ignored otherwise.
(Well and promptly forgotten)

And if you get confused by such mails, that just means you weren't confused often enough :P
:D :D got another decent result :P I like what I can do with Dezgo. @ some point gotta experiment with AI in painting with DS.


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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by bobvan2 » Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:02 pm

Once in a while a glitchy AI can be in your favour...
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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by bobvan2 » Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:09 pm

Re posted in girls & gorillas
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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by Hand-Holder » Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:00 pm

The Giant Rat chasse is lovely... PERVERT RATSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Your doing great, but I see your AIs also insist in not making King Kong really big... But I love these, thanks for sharing...
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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by bobvan2 » Wed Oct 02, 2024 10:45 pm

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The Giant Rat chasse is lovely... PERVERT RATSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Your doing great, but I see your AIs also insist in not making King Kong really big... But I love these, thanks for sharing...
That's the AI prolly cause it's the free version who knows. If I sell something perhaps I will try the paid version. I also got to get back to my story telling at some point. I want experiment with AI in painting with DS. At least I'm dabbling in it. The shit on youtube is just wild!

not sw per say but still hot shit!
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Post by bobvan2 » Thu Oct 03, 2024 1:13 am

The pets collection :evil: :twisted:
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Re: Playing with DA & other free AI programs

Post by bobvan2 » Thu Oct 03, 2024 8:05 pm

Sci fi morning this shit is addictive!

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