Gen V - The Boys Spinoff

[rscholar]

I do wonder if she does like the powers but hates how she becomes small. Which is why I think her being confident will bypass the way she shrinks.

I would bet good money that's how it'll go down, like she'll pass a mental block and take direct control of her powers. I'm wondering how, though, since she's already confronted her mother in ep3. Safe bet is she realizes her potential to be a real hero and gains confidence. Longshot is it's if/when she indulges in a girl-on-girl tryst. I am worried that the whole "low confidence = shrinking" dynamic does a 180 and by season's end she strictly becomes a grower. But super longshot I could see working is that she just changes the nature of the trigger so her "purging" becomes something positive and revolves around self-care: she has to jerk herself off.

[Jeebus]

I am worried that the whole "low confidence = shrinking" dynamic does a 180 and by season's end she strictly becomes a grower. But super longshot I could see working is that she just changes the nature of the trigger so her "purging" becomes something positive and revolves around self-care: she has to jerk herself off.

Ugh so right. Here's hoping it's the latter. SW can be empowering, too, damnit!

[eddiegiantman]

I do wonder if she does like the powers but hates how she becomes small. Which is why I think her being confident will bypass the way she shrinks.

I would bet good money that's how it'll go down, like she'll pass a mental block and take direct control of her powers. I'm wondering how, though, since she's already confronted her mother in ep3. Safe bet is she realizes her potential to be a real hero and gains confidence. Longshot is it's if/when she indulges in a girl-on-girl tryst. I am worried that the whole "low confidence = shrinking" dynamic does a 180 and by season's end she strictly becomes a grower. But super longshot I could see working is that she just changes the nature of the trigger so her "purging" becomes something positive and revolves around self-care: she has to jerk herself off.

That's my fear but she might be a sizeshifter and I think the jerking off thing would have been into play I feel but we will see. Also I have to watch it back but it didn't seem like she confronted her mom in EP3 or at least told her out.

Also the Ep4 teaser is out

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She does make it out but my theory will likely still in play later, the tiny shoe thing will likely have them being hunted by the big bads but she's basically the catalyst of the shows main plot, letting loose a dangerous Supe, also she's only wearing a shirt and she grows back so we might see another size moment soon.

[Firewall]

Goodness stake, let us have something for once GTS Folk. You had Termite.

Yeah, I get the feeling if she does any growing outside of her normal height, it'll probably be 7-10 feet tall and unlike shrinking, it'll probably be costly on her body to even do that.

My personal actual bet is that by the end of season 1, she will start to see the upside of having the ability to shrink and feeling more confident as well. Ep 3 definitely showed a more chipper side of her being small and her having a bit of fun with it. Hell, maybe she'll possibly find another trigger to make it happen where it doesn't have to involve vomit like a orgasm or a very emotional memory.

[Gigantron]

It really does seem like it's going to devolve into her eating to become a giantess as a confidence metaphor. The purging thing is a very weird choice to me. How much did she throw up to infiltrate the prison cell? The mechanics of it have to remain open enough for her to grow beyond her normal size, it's just the only way they can write something that broad without spending exhaustive time on her and her power. Which would, admittedly, be awesome--but we have a whole mess of weird powers on display here and she's just a part of an ensemble cast.

[ShrinkMaster]

He came without cum.
Even at the Herogasm in „The Boys“ Marvin was hit by a huge load of sperm, although it made less sense there.

[Tinkerbell’s Bf]

Photo editors, now is your time to shine.

Give us some photoshopped shrunken and naked Lizze Broadway

[eddiegiantman]

It really does seem like it's going to devolve into her eating to become a giantess as a confidence metaphor. The purging thing is a very weird choice to me. How much did she throw up to infiltrate the prison cell? The mechanics of it have to remain open enough for her to grow beyond her normal size, it's just the only way they can write something that broad without spending exhaustive time on her and her power. Which would, admittedly, be awesome--but we have a whole mess of weird powers on display here and she's just a part of an ensemble cast.

They are hinting that with the calorie intake stuff. Maybe if she goes to overboard with eating which also opens a mess of issues with the weight issues metaphor.

Plausible theory.

[shrinker_s]

This may have been added already, but I think the sex scene may have been planed to be a little more "X"ish. Ther was no reason for her to be dressed and it looked like the male came and that was the reason for her to slide off his cockhead. I am thinking that the scene may have been planned with her being nude. him cumming, her sliding down his shaft covered in cum. That was the reason at the very end she slaps his balls.
But hey, that may just be me.

[Bobascher]

This may have been added already, but I think the sex scene may have been planed to be a little more "X"ish. Ther was no reason for her to be dressed and it looked like the male came and that was the reason for her to slide off his cockhead. I am thinking that the scene may have been planned with her being nude. him cumming, her sliding down his shaft covered in cum. That was the reason at the very end she slaps his balls.
But hey, that may just be me.

Perhaps but I didn’t see that in the scene. It seems he put her up there and she was struggling to hold on. When he told her to kick him, it really threw her off balance (hence why her face was pressed into him). When it became clear he was just interested in his own pleasure and ego, she quit trying and that’s when she slipped. She slapped him out of anger or frustration.

[Bobascher]

Photo editors, now is your time to shine.

Give us some photoshopped shrunken and naked Lizze Broadway

Maybe not perhaps? The GTS folks had a gold mine several years ago with this whole Levi’s commercial arc, or at least they would have if they didn’t hound the model, weird her out and get Levi’s to cancel the whole campaign.

Just a little secret - people don’t like others photoshopping them naked without their consent. It is also illegal is the vast majority of the Western world.

So moral of the story - be nice to the tiny lady or else you won’t have the tiny lady.

[shrinker_s]

Perhaps but I didn’t see that in the scene. It seems he put her up there and she was struggling to hold on. When he told her to kick him, it really threw her off balance (hence why her face was pressed into him). When it became clear he was just interested in his own pleasure and ego, she quit trying and that’s when she slipped. She slapped him out of anger or frustration.
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Thinking about it more I thinn you are right. Also, she needed to shrink in the bathroom across the hall so I guess she wouldn't want to be naked on the trip back. You're also right in that he was only interested in his own pleasure. I also wonder how many other "Shrinking girl" fans she has run into and maybe that has affected her self image.

[Jeebus]

I also wonder how many other "Shrinking girl" fans she has run into and maybe that has affected her self image.

It would be a bummer if they fully demonize the concept. SM and GTS have overwhelmingly positive depictions media.

The fact that she wasn't into it and that the guy is clearly a toxic dick (pun intended) kills the scene way more than her clothes. I really hope we find her embracing shrinking in her own way rather than leaning away from SW at all.

[eddiegiantman]

I also wonder how many other "Shrinking girl" fans she has run into and maybe that has affected her self image.

It would be a bummer if they fully demonize the concept. SM and GTS have overwhelmingly positive depictions media.

The fact that she wasn't into it and that the guy is clearly a toxic dick (pun intended) kills the scene way more than her clothes. I really hope we find her embracing shrinking in her own way rather than leaning away from SW at all.

My guess the first 2 episodes, she sees the powers as a burden but the 3rd episode, she starts to warm up to them. Hence our confidence prediction.

Photo editors, now is your time to shine.

Give us some photoshopped shrunken and naked Lizze Broadway

Maybe not perhaps? The GTS folks had a gold mine several years ago with this whole Levi’s commercial arc, or at least they would have if they didn’t hound the model, weird her out and get Levi’s to cancel the whole campaign.

Just a little secret - people don’t like others photoshopping them naked without their consent. It is also illegal is the vast majority of the Western world.

So moral of the story - be nice to the tiny lady or else you won’t have the tiny lady.

I feel like things will already go out of control, have you seen the fan art of the Cassie Lang actress?

Also ironically I am planning on a Shrinkfan commission between the 2. Would drawings still count as not creepy?

I am so astounded we are digging deeper to this one character after seeing her past the big EP1 moment with discussion on her psyche, her motivation, her role in the grand story.

Remember she liked Sam and talking to him because he didn't see her as Little Cricket or a sex object. He saw her as just Emma.

[Bobascher]

I feel like things will already go out of control, have you seen the fan art of the Cassie Lang actress?

Also ironically I am planning on a Shrinkfan commission between the 2. Would drawings still count as not creepy?

I am so astounded we are digging deeper to this one character after seeing her past the big EP1 moment with discussion on her psyche, her motivation, her role in the grand story.

Remember she liked Sam and talking to him because he didn't see her as Little Cricket or a sex object. He saw her as just Emma.

Being inspired by her character and drawing pictures in my mind is a step removed from photo editting her directly. Because at that point it isn’t Lizze Broadway, it’s Emma. But just because that’s where I can mentally draw the line isn’t saying that’s the best or only place.

[eddiegiantman]

I feel like things will already go out of control, have you seen the fan art of the Cassie Lang actress?

Also ironically I am planning on a Shrinkfan commission between the 2. Would drawings still count as not creepy?

I am so astounded we are digging deeper to this one character after seeing her past the big EP1 moment with discussion on her psyche, her motivation, her role in the grand story.

Remember she liked Sam and talking to him because he didn't see her as Little Cricket or a sex object. He saw her as just Emma.

Being inspired by her character and drawing pictures in my mind is a step removed from photo editting her directly. Because at that point it isn’t Lizze Broadway, it’s Emma. But just because that’s where I can mentally draw the line isn’t saying that’s the best or only place.

Sadly we knew there are always a group of fans that take it too far, after all, we live in the age of AI and deepfakes. I know some SW 3D artists that use actresses likenesses for their work.

[Tinkerbell’s Bf]

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[Firewall]

Photo editors, now is your time to shine.

Give us some photoshopped shrunken and naked Lizze Broadway

Maybe not perhaps? The GTS folks had a gold mine several years ago with this whole Levi’s commercial arc, or at least they would have if they didn’t hound the model, weird her out and get Levi’s to cancel the whole campaign.

Just a little secret - people don’t like others photoshopping them naked without their consent. It is also illegal is the vast majority of the Western world.

So moral of the story - be nice to the tiny lady or else you won’t have the tiny lady.

God, I remember GTS folk hounding the actresses over "Attack of the 50 ft Cheerleader" prior to release.
Let's be much more rational than they were, please.

Side note: Reviewing the third episode footage, It seems like she has enhanced agility when she's small.

[rscholar]

I am so astounded we are digging deeper to this one character after seeing her past the big EP1 moment with discussion on her psyche, her motivation, her role in the grand story.

I'm thrilled that we are. She's interesting, complicated, and has a lot of potential, probably one of the most decently drawn out shrinking mainstream characters we've seen in a good while. Hell, we've been dissecting clues about her since the first trailer, right? We're going to keep an eye on this show anyway so why get a little invested?

I don’t see how anyone can be hopeful about this shit anymore.

From the looks of everything and the way they portray shrinking women on this show, our whole fetish is going to be demonized.

This was our chance and now it’s gone. This isn’t going to pave the way for more SW in the mainstream.

And yes I’m mad. I’m grieving because this is all I have in terms of sexual fulfillment (call me a loser if you want) but this just sucks and I really really just wanted something from this.

I get what you mean - the causes of her shrinking aren't exactly flattering to begin with and her power seems more like a burden to her and a metaphor for her state of mind, especially since the jock didn't seem interested in her other than for his fulfillment (like I said, when he asked her to shrink for him and the scene was all cute and sweet, I got caught up in it - him turning out to be a dismissive asshole was honestly a bit of a gut punch for me). Still, the show surprised us once already, maybe they'll come through with something else. I know I'll keep watching to find out so we'll let you know if you'd rather put it out of your mind

It really does seem like it's going to devolve into her eating to become a giantess as a confidence metaphor. The purging thing is a very weird choice to me. How much did she throw up to infiltrate the prison cell? The mechanics of it have to remain open enough for her to grow beyond her normal size, it's just the only way they can write something that broad without spending exhaustive time on her and her power. Which would, admittedly, be awesome--but we have a whole mess of weird powers on display here and she's just a part of an ensemble cast.

They are hinting that with the calorie intake stuff. Maybe if she goes to overboard with eating which also opens a mess of issues with the weight issues metaphor.

Plausible theory.

I recently realized something and I apologize if you guys basically already said so in some way because I'm a dingus for not seeing this sooner, but I think it's worth noting, at least in theory, because it could add more context.

I was combing through some "easter egg" youtube videos and there was a suggestion (it was in Spanish and I unfortunately can't find it again) that the little rainbow bear necklace Emma wears seemingly resemble some kind of gummi chewable vitamins. I thought, makes sense, she can just pop them when needed. Then I remember the mom, to your point, worrying Emma needed something to eat and asked if she was "following the food schedule." That and how the trigger is about "emptying the contents of her stomach" started painting a different picture for me:

We, and I to a large extent, keep using "trigger" like it's the puking itself or solely when she purges that makes her shrink. I think it's a bit backwards - purging just accelerates the process already happening because her power is connected to her *metabolism*. She needs to eat regularly to stay her normal size and if she doesn't for a while, she shrinks (hence, "You look *a few* inches shorter). So, while it's possible there could a bit where something like overeating may lead to surprise growth, I think it makes more sense that she's just constantly keeping herself in homeostasis to live normally and that she's probably not going to "get over it" like I at least initially thought. And you know what that means? When her body doesn't have enough food or nutrients, her "power" is essentially a condition in which her body starts *cannibalizing itself!* Temporary and reversable, sure, but that's what it seems like.

[ROGU3_20]

Remember she liked Sam and talking to him because he didn't see her as Little Cricket or a sex object. He saw her as just Emma.

this part really intrigues me. despite being a mess himself, I like how Sam treats her like a person and not something for pleasure and its sweet.
looking back, maybe thats the reason both of them are next to each other in the poster..

[eddiegiantman]

I am so astounded we are digging deeper to this one character after seeing her past the big EP1 moment with discussion on her psyche, her motivation, her role in the grand story.

I'm thrilled that we are. She's interesting, complicated, and has a lot of potential, probably one of the most decently drawn out shrinking mainstream characters we've seen in a good while. Hell, we've been dissecting clues about her since the first trailer, right? We're going to keep an eye on this show anyway so why get a little invested?

That's prestige TV. They hook you fascinating characters, It got us hooked because of the tiny lady.

I recently realized something and I apologize if you guys basically already said so in some way because I'm a dingus for not seeing this sooner, but I think it's worth noting, at least in theory, because it could add more context.

I was combing through some "easter egg" youtube videos and there was a suggestion (it was in Spanish and I unfortunately can't find it again) that the little rainbow bear necklace Emma wears seemingly resemble some kind of gummi chewable vitamins. I thought, makes sense, she can just pop them when needed. Then I remember the mom, to your point, worrying Emma needed something to eat and asked if she was "following the food schedule." That and how the trigger is about "emptying the contents of her stomach" started painting a different picture for me:

We, and I to a large extent, keep using "trigger" like it's the puking itself or solely when she purges that makes her shrink. I think it's a bit backwards - purging just accelerates the process already happening because her power is connected to her *metabolism*. She needs to eat regularly to stay her normal size and if she doesn't for a while, she shrinks (hence, "You look *a few* inches shorter). So, while it's possible there could a bit where something like overeating may lead to surprise growth, I think it makes more sense that she's just constantly keeping herself in homeostasis to live normally and that she's probably not going to "get over it" like I at least initially thought. And you know what that means? When her body doesn't have enough food or nutrients, her "power" is essentially a condition in which her body starts *cannibalizing itself!* Temporary and reversable, sure, but that's what it seems like.

So basically body horror, would hit but I have to think the triggers get bypassed before the end. Also I do realize she did tell her mother off but it doesn't feel like she did though, I do feel the real confrontation will come later though.

Side note: Reviewing the third episode footage, It seems like she has enhanced agility when she's small.

Yeah I wonder if that climax at the end of EP3 is her starting to see the upside of her powers.

This might be the last time I will comment on this thread until the next episode though lol.

[freeman5421]

Love the fact there is SW in mainstream media which includes a graphic scene I would have never have thought would be filmed. Could you imagine the set/prop design and behind the scenes on that take?

There is a few things that bug me though when I think about the Emma and her powers:

• Does she really always shrink in the bathroom? Does she just keep all her stuff in there until she grows again? Seems extremely rude /s. Also would be a long walk depending on how far the bathroom is

• Does she have increased strength or abilities? She does a super jump and is able to perform some surgery if you catch my drift but that would require some serious strength

• The ability for all the characters to hear Emma is probably unrealistic but it would be annoying if that wasn't the case so I will let it slide

• There is no mention of insects or anything. There is one point where she goes in a crack in the wall and all I think about is all the spiders she is going to run into. Playing Grounded has warned me of the danger of bugs when you are small

[cirrus]

• There is no mention of insects or anything. There is one point where she goes in a crack in the wall and all I think about is all the spiders she is going to run into. Playing Grounded has warned me of the danger of bugs when you are small

She mentions to Marie in the second episode that she had to fight off ants all night after she shrunk herself when her eating disorder was outed.

[Raso719]

The comment from her mother makes me wonder if she needs to maintain a certain level of metabolic activity or she shrinks... so purging shrinks her really fast but over the course of the day she's just constantly shrinking when not eating. It makes me wonder if we'll see a plot point where she's in hiding or being kept hostage and she needs to fear shrinking away to nothing due to a lack of food.
I also wonder if exertion has an effect on her size, like calories in and out seem to be a factor so does exertion over a long period also cause her to lose size?
Does she shrink when she expels anything from her body? Does she shrink when she uses the bathroom? When she has a runny nose? When she sweats? Bleeds?

If she got pregnant would her baby eat her from the inside out and shrink her faster than the could keep her calories ups (maybe not shrinking with her causing her to burst?)

Jeez, when did I become so depraved. :/

[Jeebus]

Just a few thoughts now that the dust has settled. I take my back original review, the scene is amazing for what it is, and Lizzie's acting is S tier. This woman is seriously going places after this show.

The reception to the scene and Lizzie has also been overwhelmingly positive outside of the SW community, even if the reviews aren't great on the show itself. People love her character, and she seems to be carrying the show.

As others have mentioned, this is a true watershed moment for SW in the mainstream. All this talk of nudes and commissions has me worried of giving us "bad press" at some point. We need to be a community that the industry wants to keep entertaining, and not worried about galvanizing a bunch of weirdos.

It has been extraordinarily exciting seeing this unfold with you all, and truly felt like Xmas came early this year. Let's remember just how much material we have already, and continue to find positive, non-invasive ways to support this show.