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Fainting is so rare

Post by Hand-Holder » Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:35 pm

I won´t say it doesn´t happen, here and there, in stories or arts...

But I just can´t remember one single situation where a Shrunken woman get´s so sacred and chocked with the sudden presence of what is a Giant to her, specially when grabbed, that immediately faints...

And a fainted living doll has a magic of it´s own, it can offer so many new ways to play with...

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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by KingTim » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:17 am

Kong 76? I know it's not exactly the same situation you are describing but I always thought Dwan fainting after being grabbed by the giant monster to be very interesting!

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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by Prof Sai » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:19 am

I think fainting was caused by 19th century wardrobe. Or they were all just faking it to get others to deal with their problems.

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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by DocRick » Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:57 am

KingTim wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:17 am
Kong 76? I know it's not exactly the same situation you are describing but I always thought Dwan fainting after being grabbed by the giant monster to be very interesting!
As I remember, Dwan only fainted once, when Kong first grabbed her off the sacrificial alter. Fay Wray fainted constantly during her time with Kong.

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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by Little Sally » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:18 pm

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I won´t say it doesn´t happen, here and there, in stories or arts...

But I just can´t remember one single situation where a Shrunken woman get´s so sacred and chocked with the sudden presence of what is a Giant to her, specially when grabbed, that immediately faints...

And a fainted living doll has a magic of it´s own, it can offer so many new ways to play with...

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I agree, the unconscious heroine in a "giant's" grasp is not often seen (or described), but it's a classic erotic situation. Simply because it conveys how helpless the woman is, in the presence of such a huge and powerful adversary. Be it man or beast, or even some mythical being.

I've experimented with the idea on a few occasions, with this first being a creepy looking older man, who is toying with a woman he's shrunk (there could be any explanation who they're supposed to be, but you can always decide that yourself). The end result of course, is the experience proves too much for her mind to handle.. and she passes out!


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And this one might be described as a hooker who has taken on more than she can handle with a client. Finding to her surprise that he can reduce her in size.. with pretty scary consequences!

Thing with this one though is, she's a fairly tough cookie and she doesn't give up easily to fainting. But the fact that he can easily hold her like he's doing for as long as it takes will defeat her, when she finally submits from sheer exhaustion. It being one of the easiest ways to tame a troublesome doll sized woman, without actually using any force at all!


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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by DocRick » Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:07 pm

In this subject, "Size matters". :lol: In your images and Sally's images, the SW is about Barbie doll size or even larger. Many SW fans, me for example, prefer our ladies to be smaller, in the 4-to-8-inch range and an image like yours wouldn't show much of the SW. It's just a matter of size preference. On other end of the spectrum, it would be difficult to hold a two-to-four-foot SW in one hand or two hands without it looking like a child, which is a subject we should stay far away from.

Just my humble opinion.

Nice images above though, even if not in my "size". ;)

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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by Little Sally » Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:20 pm

DocRick wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:07 pm
In this subject, "Size matters". :lol: In your images and Sally's images, the SW is about Barbie doll size or even larger. Many SW fans, me for example, prefer our ladies to be smaller, in the 4-to-8-inch range and an image like yours wouldn't show much of the SW. It's just a matter of size preference. On other end of the spectrum, it would be difficult to hold a two-to-four-foot SW in one hand or two hands without it looking like a child, which is a subject we should stay far away from.

Just my humble opinion.

Nice images above though, even if not in my "size". ;)

(nice Doc pic)
Yes you're right, it's that old chestnut size preference. What suits one doesn't always work with everyone.

I just like the aesthetic of a doll sized woman handheld, because you get that classic submissive backbend look, when she's unconscious.

Couldn't agree more about the 2 to 4 foot sizes though, which certainly don't work as handhelds, and can often look similar to underage subjects.

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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by Hand-Holder » Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:28 pm

Little Sally wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:18 pm
Hand-Holder wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:35 pm
I won´t say it doesn´t happen, here and there, in stories or arts...

But I just can´t remember one single situation where a Shrunken woman get´s so sacred and chocked with the sudden presence of what is a Giant to her, specially when grabbed, that immediately faints...

And a fainted living doll has a magic of it´s own, it can offer so many new ways to play with...
I agree, the unconscious heroine in a "giant's" grasp is not often seen (or described), but it's a classic erotic situation. Simply because it conveys how helpless the woman is, in the presence of such a huge and powerful adversary. Be it man or beast, or even some mythical being.

I've experimented with the idea on a few occasions, with this first being a creepy looking older man, who is toying with a woman he's shrunk (there could be any explanation who they're supposed to be, but you can always decide that yourself). The end result of course, is the experience proves too much for her mind to handle.. and she passes out!
BLOODY HELL, I JUST FOUND OUT, also a bit with the help of your images, that - PASSED OUT minies IS F... EXCITING, VERY EXCITING !!!

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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by Little Sally » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:26 pm

Hand-Holder wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:28 pm


BLOODY HELL, I JUST FOUND OUT, also a bit with the help of your images, that - PASSED OUT minies IS F... EXCITING, VERY EXCITING !!!

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It's nice you think so.

I think there's something basically erotic about the look of an unconscious woman in a giant's hand, where her limp body can be a turn on for him, without her even knowing about it! :twisted:

Conjuring thoughts of villainous corny dialogue we might remember from some old B movie.. "I've got you just where I want you my pretty!" "Mwhahahahaha!" :D

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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by sallyfourth » Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:01 am

Well, I think this clearly begs the question, if the Subject loses consciousness during or as a result of the shrinking process, should the Newly Resized find herself wearing her original garments or is distressed to discover that she is now in a profound state of complete undress? I refer to this moment as The Reveal and it's a very important moment in any good SW story. Here's how I treated it in My Mini Jenny...
"Gradually the light faded. Jennifer blinked several times as her mind began to clear. Eventually she realized that she was laying on her back, staring up at the distant ceiling. Strangely, it appeared to be very far away. She didn't remember this room having such high ceilings. It didn't really matter one way or the other, but everything seemed to be working in slow-motion. Despite her best efforts, Jennifer discovered that she couldn't really think clearly. She tried to sit up in an effort to stand, only to discover that she was laying beneath a jumble of very coarse, heavy fabric.
Eventually she realized that it wasn't simply random fabric. It looked as if she’d somehow become entangled in a giant-sized version of her own clothing! All of the sudden everything that she had been wearing was much, much larger than it should have been. None of it could possibly fit any more. Her enormous brassiere and huge blouse weighed on Jennifer so heavily that she could barely lift her arms. Determined to learn what had happened, she pushed at the folds of heavy fabric, squirming and wriggling to work her body free."

Either way works. Unconscious and clothed creates an interesting opportunity for her Antagonist to begin the process of disrobeing her. Handled correctly this has huge erotic potential. The realization that she is not only tiny but also nude also have wonderful potential.

And Little Sally, these images are excellent. Very well done.

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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by Little Sally » Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:32 am

sallyfourth wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:01 am
Well, I think this clearly begs the question, if the Subject loses consciousness during or as a result of the shrinking process, should the Newly Resized find herself wearing her original garments or is distressed to discover that she is now in a profound state of complete undress? I refer to this moment as The Reveal and it's a very important moment in any good SW story. Here's how I treated it in My Mini Jenny...
Very nicely described, and to the point where you don't need a picture to imagine such a scene. And while the shrinking out of clothing isn't my own particular fantasy, I recognise its appeal and its relevance to the topic.

Speaking of descriptive writing, I can imagine how well you'd describe the scene in "The Attack of The Puppet People", where Sally Reynolds is reduced by Mr Franz. How she arrived at her predicament is just left to our imagination in the movie (understandably), but it must have been a very pleasing task indeed for the perpetrator.
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Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:01 am
Either way works. Unconscious and clothed creates an interesting opportunity for her Antagonist to begin the process of disrobeing her. Handled correctly this has huge erotic potential. The realization that she is not only tiny but also nude also have wonderful potential.
Indeed it does. I think it's the inevitable consequence of being reduced in size (especially non-consensually), where we can normally assume the antagonist has ulterior motives in mind. Which of course works just as well in a F/f scenario as it does with M/f.

I personally prefer the shrinking process to affect the clothing as well, which gives the subject some small crumb of comfort and dignity for a while. Thus delaying the inevitable so to speak. Which in itself can lead her to be more stressed out and anxious about her predicament, as she imagines what her captor might have in mind. So it's easy to imagine it being something that might possibly cause her to pass out. Giving her temporary refuge, in oblivion!
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And Little Sally, these images are excellent. Very well done.

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Thank you Sally. That's nice to hear from someone so classy and long established in her own field of art.

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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by sallyfourth » Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:53 pm

Little Sally wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:32 am

Speaking of descriptive writing, I can imagine how well you'd describe the scene in "The Attack of The Puppet People", where Sally Reynolds is reduced by Mr Franz. How she arrived at her predicament is just left to our imagination in the movie (understandably), but it must have been a very pleasing task indeed for the perpetrator.

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I personally prefer the shrinking process to affect the clothing as well, which gives the subject some small crumb of comfort and dignity for a while. Thus delaying the inevitable so to speak. Which in itself can lead her to be more stressed out and anxious about her predicament, as she imagines what her captor might have in mind. So it's easy to imagine it being something, that might possibly cause her to pass out. Giving her temporary refuge, in oblivion!
Regarding Attack of the Puppet People my goodness, there's so much to unpack. For instance, you might have noticed an "F" embroidered on the sheet the June Kenny is wearing when she wakes up. In the original script Mr Franz says, "You wouldn't want to greet your fiance wearing nothing but a pocket handkerchief, would you?: John Hoyt adlbed the "nothing but a napkin" and it really works much better.

If I were to write an R-rated novelization I would have Franzs' subjects rendered unconscious by the beam. I might begin with him subduing Janet Hall, before placing her on his table to reduce her, separate her still unconscious, tiny body from her clothing before she revives. I think she might prove considerably less cooperative than Sally and he would wind up assisting her into her new, doll-sized wardrobe. Perhaps Janet could be played by Kat Denning or Aubrey Plaza? And Sally Reynolds would be played by Sydney Sweeney, of course.

For me there are simply so many more delightfully erotic options to explore with a charming, young woman shrinking into her garments. Example...
Fascinated, the cardinal watched as Milady's creamy shoulders, angelic face and finally, her coiffure of red-blonde ringlets gradually receded into the bosom of her slowly deflating gown. The steady stream of muffled high-pitched, squeals, exclamations and a few most unladylike expletives; together with the gentle rustling noises from deep within the gently collapsing jumble of silk and lace brocade that were Milady's, mostly empty garments, assured the cardinal that her raiments were still not quite unoccupied.

Cardinal Richelieu had been looking forward to this particular moment for some time. Consequently, he was in no particular hurry to finish his discrete leason with the recently miniaturized aristocrat too quickly. While he was eager to collect and examine his tiny prize, he was also determined to prolong his enjoyment of this much anticipated encounter for as long as possible.

Trapped beneath the copious heaps of heavy silk and lace that had, until recently been her gown and lace petticoats, the comtesse shook her head in an effort to clear her mind. ‘What’s happened to me? I feel so incredibly strange. The cardinal… he must have drugged me. But where am I? Why is it so dark, so sultry and curiously… perfumed?’ Her mind continued to swirl; jumping from one question to the next. ‘What kind of place is this? Is this all silk? It’s so thick and heavy. And it's all around me. Am I trapped in some sort of enormous, collapsed, silk pavilion? Or in the uninflated gas bag of an airship?’ she though, struggling to make sense of her present circumstances as well as the strange, distant tremors and curious rumbling noises.

Carefully and quietly; Richelieu settled into his chair and patiently watched the pile of expensive fineries for signs of movement. Before long, his patience was rewarded. He waited and listened until a few soft, rustling sounds and high-pitched, distinctly feminine sounds reached his ears. His face drew into a broad grim as he considered that the tiny figure, laboriously crawling through the heap of silk and lace before him was Milady de Winter. And she would soon discover that she was barely larger than a pheasant.

‘Light, finally! And fresh air!’ Milady rejoiced as she finally reached the edge of the heavy, silken jumble. Pausing for a moment, she gazed out onto an alien, yet curiously familiar landscape. After crawling free of the burdensome pile of fabric, she slowly rose to her feet. Clearly she was indoors, standing on a polished floor, in a white walled room that was almost as high and vast as a cathedral.

Another brief bout of dizziness swept over her. ‘Effects of the drug perhaps' she thought, ‘Someday I will have to settle this score with Richelieu.’ She reached out to steady herself, placing a hand against a massive, gilt pillar. She considered the odd structure for a moment. She couldn't place where she'd seen it before. The column seemed to be part of a curious, ornate pavilion, the size of a small cottage but without walls. Then it occurred to her that the arm she had placed against the pillar was completely bare. Her sleeve was gone. Even her wrist and fingers were devoid of rings and bracelets. Her necklace… all of her jewelry was gone! In a sudden flash, Milady realized that she was utterly, absolutely naked!

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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by Hand-Holder » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:40 pm

It´s a crime not having shrunken clothes to unbutton and slide out, little by little, but if it makes some people happy, than is good to have variety !!!

I guess the enlarged clothes also have an important part, adding to the sense of power-shift and helplessness, stripping of dignity !!!

But just remember to launch some writings with shrunken outfits, after all a living tiny doll needs their tiny wrappings !!!!
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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by Little Sally » Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:20 pm

sallyfourth wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:53 pm
Regarding Attack of the Puppet People my goodness, there's so much to unpack. For instance, you might have noticed an "F" embroidered on the sheet the June Kenny is wearing when she wakes up. In the original script Mr Franz says, "You wouldn't want to greet your fiance wearing nothing but a pocket handkerchief, would you?: John Hoyt adlbed the "nothing but a napkin" and it really works much better.

If I were to write an R-rated novelization I would have Franzs' subjects rendered unconscious by the beam. I might begin with him subduing Janet Hall, before placing her on his table to reduce her, separate her still unconscious, tiny body from her clothing before she revives. I think she might prove considerably less cooperative than Sally and he would wind up assisting her into her new, doll-sized wardrobe. Perhaps Janet could be played by Kat Denning or Aubrey Plaza? And Sally Reynolds would be played by Sydney Sweeney, of course.
Yes I did notice the initial "F" on the napkin, as you describe. And didn't Hoyt have such a delicately wicked way of delivering his lines, when offering to help her with her new dress. As for the R-rated ideas you mention, you'd certainly get my vote to write the screenplay in a remake. If only, eh. :)

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For me there are simply so many more delightfully erotic options to explore with a charming, young woman shrinking into her garments. Example... (story excerpt)
Got to admit, that even though I'm not a fan of shrinking out of clothing per se, I did find that extract quite erotic. So although I'm not a great reader of stuff nowadays, I'll look the story up on your DA when I have more time.

I especially like the sound of that Cardinal Richelieu character, who sounds just the kind of manipulative sneaky villain I like. :twisted:

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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by ClipCarson » Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:45 am

Fainting has its time and place. I can recall two stories I wrote where the woman is rendered unconscious by a shrinking ray ... Although in each case I described three settings on the device, like an electric fan, for shrinking speed. An experienced woman could dial up a rapid shrink. A newbie setting the device for a speed shrink usually got whammed, but good.

As for fainting, the idea is nice, and Sally's photos are amazing, some of her best work! But I suppose to me it's more interesting to read or write about the woman's reaction, her panic, acceptance and assimilation ... Then explore the dynamic between the shrunken woman and her captor/friend/whomever. Not much dialogue to be written if the woman is unconscious, unless we have a hand rubbing, cackling villain commenting to himself.
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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by Little Sally » Fri Jan 24, 2025 1:01 pm

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As for fainting, the idea is nice, and Sally's photos are amazing, some of her best work! But I suppose to me it's more interesting to read or write about the woman's reaction, her panic, acceptance and assimilation ... Then explore the dynamic between the shrunken woman and her captor/friend/whomever. Not much dialogue to be written if the woman is unconscious, unless we have a hand rubbing, cackling villain commenting to himself.
I couldn't agree more about the reaction of the subject to her predicament, and the fun you can have with the dialogue she has with her captor. And yes of course, that isn't possible if she's out of it, but her passing out would only be temporary and not a concluson to the adventure (though it does make for great imagery haha!).

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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by Kara Dollgirl » Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:45 am

Hi Big People!

Since you are discussing one of my very favorite SW movies, I thought I might add "my two cents" (although those pennies are awfully big and heavy at my size!) I think this scene is one of the very best "woman getting shrunk to doll size and waking up to discover she is tiny" in film. Not to mention she is now wearing a giant pocket handkerchief rather than her street clothes. (You can clearly see the "F" in the video)

For me one of the most chilling things in this scene is Mr. Franz' sly reminder to little Sally that the tiny dress he is offering her was the same one she selected earlier in the story when she was a Big girl (though she probably didn't expect she was going to be wearing it then) You can really feel Sally's humiliation when she realizes she can now fit in a doll's dress. But she still resists the idea until Franz asks if she wants his help dressing and Sally immediately panics and begins to do as she is told, leaving no doubt who is the Master is here. (I love imagining myself in in this scene)

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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by sallyfourth » Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:22 pm

Kara Dollgirl wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:45 am

For me one of the most chilling things in this scene is Mr. Franz' sly reminder to little Sally that the tiny dress he is offering her was the same one she selected earlier in the story when she was a Big girl (though she probably didn't expect she was going to be wearing it then) You can really feel Sally's humiliation when she realizes she can now fit in a doll's dress. But she still resists the idea until Franz asks if she wants his help dressing and Sally immediately panics and begins to do as she is told, leaving no doubt who is the Master is here. (I love imagining myself in in this scene)

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You're so right! June did such an amazing job. She even insisted on riding in John's breast pocket between shots. She, Laurie and Marlene were such incredible troopers, insisting that they remained small through the entire shooting schedule as to not break character, with Laurie even remaining tiny for several months after shooting was finished because she "really enjoys it!" I can't tell you how many times we had to reshoot her bath in the coffee can scene due to Laurie's "wardrobe malfunctions". Okay, granted the cameraman was pretty cute and she certainly managed to get his attention.

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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by Kara Dollgirl » Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:14 am

sallyfourth wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:22 pm
Kara Dollgirl wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:45 am

For me one of the most chilling things in this scene is Mr. Franz' sly reminder to little Sally that the tiny dress he is offering her was the same one she selected earlier in the story when she was a Big girl (though she probably didn't expect she was going to be wearing it then) You can really feel Sally's humiliation when she realizes she can now fit in a doll's dress. But she still resists the idea until Franz asks if she wants his help dressing and Sally immediately panics and begins to do as she is told, leaving no doubt who is the Master is here. (I love imagining myself in in this scene)

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You're so right! June did such an amazing job. She even insisted on riding in John's breast pocket between shots. She, Laurie and Marlene were such incredible troopers, insisting that they remained small through the entire shooting schedule as to not break character, with Laurie even remaining tiny for several months after shooting was finished because she "really enjoys it!" I can't tell you how many times we had to reshoot her bath in the coffee can scene due to Laurie's "wardrobe malfunctions". Okay, granted the cameraman was pretty cute and she certainly managed to get his attention.

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Thanks for all the behind-the-scenes info Sally! I had the feeling when I watched this movie that the doll-like stature of the characters was a VERY "special effect"! It makes sense that they would actually shrink the cast because constructing all those giant props and sets would be SO expensive for what was obviously a film with a very tight budget. I can understand Laurie wanting to stay small...after all, she was the one who said that she "got used to this (small) size in about 10 minutes, and believe me Brother, I kinda like it!" The female I think should have stayed a doll was Marlene....just imagine the fame and the career she could have had as the "world's smallest chanteuse".

You are right that besides Sally's "waking up shrunken" scene, the most provocative scene in the movie was Marlene bathing in that coffee can and the three shrunken women discussing what's to come for them...Oh, if only they would do a remake with an "R" rating so we could see more of our lovely dolls when bathing or changing or dancing...sigh. Oh well, I still love this movie! (BTW, does "the machine" still exist and is it still being used...? Oh wait! Silly little me!)
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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by sallyfourth » Sun Jan 26, 2025 2:07 am

Kara Dollgirl wrote:
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Thanks for all the behind-the-scenes info Sally! I had the feeling when I watched this movie that the doll-like stature of the characters was a VERY "special effect"! It makes sense that they would actually shrink the cast because constructing all those giant props and sets would be SO expensive for what was obviously a film with a very tight budget. I can understand Laurie wanting to stay small...after all, she was the one who said that she "got used to this (small) size in about 10 minutes, and believe me Brother, I kinda like it!" The female I think should have stayed a doll was Marlene....just imagine the fame and the career she could have had as the "world's smallest chanteuse".

You are right that besides Sally's "waking up shrunken" scene, the most provocative scene in the movie was Marlene bathing in that coffee can and the three shrunken women discussing what's to come for them...Oh, if only they would do a remake with an "R" rating so we could see more of our lovely dolls when bathing or changing or dancing...sigh. Oh well, I still love this movie! (BTW, does "the machine" still exist and is it still being used...? Oh wait! Silly little me!)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpYrvi2DsM&t=2s
Well doll, if you'd like to know a bit more I've posted a bit of the Film Threat interview on my DA page.... so...

https://www.deviantart.com/sallyfourth/ ... 1151296193

Oh, and it is a bit confusing because "Georgia Lane" was played by Laurie Mitchell, while "Laurie" was played by Marlene Willis. Marlene actually recorded four songs for the movie but only one made the final cut. So much wound up on the cutting room floor or in Bert's "private archive", including the girl's having their moonlight skinny dip. What a shame.

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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by Kara Dollgirl » Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:04 am

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Sun Jan 26, 2025 2:07 am
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Thanks for all the behind-the-scenes info Sally! I had the feeling when I watched this movie that the doll-like stature of the characters was a VERY "special effect"! It makes sense that they would actually shrink the cast because constructing all those giant props and sets would be SO expensive for what was obviously a film with a very tight budget. I can understand Laurie wanting to stay small...after all, she was the one who said that she "got used to this (small) size in about 10 minutes, and believe me Brother, I kinda like it!" The female I think should have stayed a doll was Marlene....just imagine the fame and the career she could have had as the "world's smallest chanteuse".

You are right that besides Sally's "waking up shrunken" scene, the most provocative scene in the movie was Marlene bathing in that coffee can and the three shrunken women discussing what's to come for them...Oh, if only they would do a remake with an "R" rating so we could see more of our lovely dolls when bathing or changing or dancing...sigh. Oh well, I still love this movie! (BTW, does "the machine" still exist and is it still being used...? Oh wait! Silly little me!)
Kara

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHpYrvi2DsM&t=2s
Well doll, if you'd like to know a bit more I've posted a bit of the Film Threat interview on my DA page.... so...

https://www.deviantart.com/sallyfourth/ ... 1151296193

Oh, and it is a bit confusing because "Georgia Lane" was played by Laurie Mitchell, while "Laurie" was played by Marlene Willis. Marlene actually recorded four songs for the movie but only one made the final cut. So much wound up on the cutting room floor or in Bert's "private archive", including the girl's having their moonlight skinny dip. What a shame.

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Aha! Now we know that Bert Gordon DID save some of the unused film for his "private archive"! Also that there was film that was cut and not used in the finished film. So those many feet of exposed film are out there somewhere, waiting to be discovered...we hope!
(I would give a lot to see that unused scene of the girls' moonlight skinny dip)

I did read somewhere that June Kenny actually had a friend make her "Doll Dress" because Gordon WAS very cheap and she wanted a really beautiful dress to wear for the movie...she did look like a "living doll" even if she didn't have a lot to hold up that bustier dress. (Did I say that...? I'm so bad)
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Post by Firewall » Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:35 am

Does the cover of Small World technically count?

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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by sallyfourth » Sun Jan 26, 2025 4:22 pm

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Aha! Now we know that Bert Gordon DID save some of the unused film for his "private archive"! Also that there was film that was cut and not used in the finished film. So those many feet of exposed film are out there somewhere, waiting to be discovered...we hope!
(I would give a lot to see that unused scene of the girls' moonlight skinny dip)

I did read somewhere that June Kenny actually had a friend make her "Doll Dress" because Gordon WAS very cheap and she wanted a really beautiful dress to wear for the movie...she did look like a "living doll" even if she didn't have a lot to hold up that bustier dress. (Did I say that...? I'm so bad)
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Yes. To the best of my knowledge Bert kept all of the outtake reels. In my opinion the night-for-day filter and the dye they added to cloud the water made the actual footage of the skinny dip scene less than awesome. But the actual filming was a fabulous thing to watch.

Only June had been provided with a tiny bathing suit and Bert felt that it covered too much. So all three of the little lovelies were instructed to do the scene in the all together. This was the last scene that we filmed and by that point Laurie and Marlene had both had become rather uninhibited about being eleven inches high and nude in front of the crew.

June was still very reluctant. She was standing there in her little, white one-piece; arms folded abd feet set. It was clear that June didn't want to do it and Bert wasn't able to sway her. Eventually John Hoyt intervened. In a rather firm tone for John, he told June that he wanted to have a word with her. With that he picked her up and tucked her into the breast pocket of his jacket. After excusing himself, he went into the changing room. About five minutes later, John returned to the set.

Reaching into his jacket, John produced a tiny, blushing and absolutely naked June Kenney. She followed each of Bert's directions to the letter for the rest of the scene. Nude and frolicking in the sink with the others, June would occasionally glance up to John as if looking for his approval. John would give her a little smile and a nod. He would never tell me how he did it. And I never saw June’s little bathing suit again.

One of the interesting questions that Alan Ng from Film Threat asked was regarding the surprisingly close on and off set relationship that developed between June and John Hoyt. Since it did involve an actual fainting spell, this thread might actually be a good place to relate that story too.

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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by Kara Dollgirl » Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:48 am

sallyfourth wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 4:22 pm
Kara Dollgirl wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:04 am

Aha! Now we know that Bert Gordon DID save some of the unused film for his "private archive"! Also that there was film that was cut and not used in the finished film. So those many feet of exposed film are out there somewhere, waiting to be discovered...we hope!
(I would give a lot to see that unused scene of the girls' moonlight skinny dip)

I did read somewhere that June Kenny actually had a friend make her "Doll Dress" because Gordon WAS very cheap and she wanted a really beautiful dress to wear for the movie...she did look like a "living doll" even if she didn't have a lot to hold up that bustier dress. (Did I say that...? I'm so bad)
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Yes. To the best of my knowledge Bert kept all of the outtake reels. In my opinion the night-for-day filter and the dye they added to cloud the water made the actual footage of the skinny dip scene less than awesome. But the actual filming was a fabulous thing to watch.

Only June had been provided with a tiny bathing suit and Bert felt that it covered too much. So all three of the little lovelies were instructed to do the scene in the all together. This was the last scene that we filmed and by that point Laurie and Marlene had both had become rather uninhibited about being eleven inches high and nude in front of the crew.

June was still very reluctant. She was standing there in her little, white one-piece; arms folded abd feet set. It was clear that June didn't want to do it and Bert wasn't able to sway her. Eventually John Hoyt intervened. In a rather firm tone for John, he told June that he wanted to have a word with her. With that he picked her up and tucked her into the breast pocket of his jacket. After excusing himself, he went into the changing room. About five minutes later, John returned to the set.

Reaching into his jacket, John produced a tiny, blushing and absolutely naked June Kenney. She followed each of Bert's directions to the letter for the rest of the scene. Nude and frolicking in the sink with the others, June would occasionally glance up to John as if looking for his approval. John would give her a little smile and a nod. He would never tell me how he did it. And I never saw June’s little bathing suit again.

One of the interesting questions that Alan Ng from Film Threat asked was regarding the surprisingly close on and off set relationship that developed between June and John Hoyt. Since it did involve an actual fainting spell, this thread might actually be a good place to relate that story too.

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Oh my! This is so wonderful to learn all this behind-the scenes "dirt" that happened on the set of "Puppet People". I can only imagine how exciting it would have been to watch all 3 of the lovelies in the movie bathing nude in the sink. I am not surprised that June was a little shy...she was so convincing as the little lady who was so humiliated and frightened by being shrunk, not to mention she was always very shy about having to change clothes with anyone around. When John said "shall I help you" (get into her new doll dress) she immediately picked up her dress and began to slip out of her giant handkerchief (although you can just see that she is wearing a body briefer underneath). but apparently she would respond favorably to the right set of giant hands...I would love to know just what John did to make June more receptive to he idea of baring it all for the camera...even if Mr. Gordon was the only one to see the finished results on film. Of course you have your memories...and perhaps some candid Polaroids you took when no one was looking...?

Thinking about this tableaux reminds me of a time when 5 of us who were your own "Living Dolls" were taking a sink bath...I think it was Janice, Lilly, Darcy, myself and I the feisty redhead with the large assets who was one of your favorites...goodness that seems so long ago now! I do recall that we were large enough and the sink small enough that we could only bathe one at a time...but I certainly recall that we were quite nude...you got us quickly acclimated to nudity by not allowing us many clothes at all...and once you have gotten used to having much of your height gone, having your clothing gone wasn't really so bad, especially when all the other little ladies around you are just as bare.

Thank you so much for being willing to reminisce about this classic film and the wonderful little women in it (were there any men in that movie...? I can't recall...)

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Re: Fainting is so rare

Post by sallyfourth » Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:05 pm

Kara Dollgirl wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:48 am

Oh my! This is so wonderful to learn all this behind-the scenes "dirt" that happened on the set of "Puppet People". I can only imagine how exciting it would have been to watch all 3 of the lovelies in the movie bathing nude in the sink. I am not surprised that June was a little shy...she was so convincing as the little lady who was so humiliated and frightened by being shrunk, not to mention she was always very shy about having to change clothes with anyone around. When John said "shall I help you" (get into her new doll dress) she immediately picked up her dress and began to slip out of her giant handkerchief (although you can just see that she is wearing a body briefer underneath). but apparently she would respond favorably to the right set of giant hands...I would love to know just what John did to make June more receptive to he idea of baring it all for the camera...even if Mr. Gordon was the only one to see the finished results on film. Of course you have your memories...and perhaps some candid Polaroids you took when no one was looking...?

Thinking about this tableaux reminds me of a time when 5 of us who were your own "Living Dolls" were taking a sink bath...I think it was Janice, Lilly, Darcy, myself and I the feisty redhead with the large assets who was one of your favorites...goodness that seems so long ago now! I do recall that we were large enough and the sink small enough that we could only bathe one at a time...but I certainly recall that we were quite nude...you got us quickly acclimated to nudity by not allowing us many clothes at all...and once you have gotten used to having much of your height gone, having your clothing gone wasn't really so bad, especially when all the other little ladies around you are just as bare.

Thank you so much for being willing to reminisce about this classic film and the wonderful little women in it (were there any men in that movie...? I can't recall...)

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Hey again doll,

I think I can provide a bit more insight into June’s personality and the way that being miniaturized effected her. I'm going to present the account of my interactions with Miss Kenney in at least two or three parts, beginning with her first experience with my Quantifier:

https://www.deviantart.com/sallyfourth/ ... 1153866297

I will also point out that John was almost thirty years June's senior at the time of filming. I'm not a psychiatrist so I don't want to assign any meaning to her reaction to John but there it is.

As you know I've never had an issue with any of you using the sink in the downstairs powder room for bathing while you are preforming your daily duties. Our usual one-third scale "house standard", seems eminently practical in that you are all small enough to bathe in that sink while still being large enough to access it and operate the faucets without assistance from any "big people".

Of course since that room is also used by my visitors and house guests, all of you will keep it neat and tidy at all times. There will be no clues accidentally left behind that might rouse undue suspensions about my home or any of it's occupants. There will be no messages, tiny toiletries or miniature garments left behind for any reason.

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